b and c not in repos
authorTim L <lebot@rpi.edu>
Thu, 03 May 2012 13:46:44 -0400
changeset 2699 fa0314981b28
parent 2698 40a15db8811e
child 2700 d6ec29d73f34
b and c not in repos
examples/eg-24-prov-o-html-examples/rdf/create/rdf/b
examples/eg-24-prov-o-html-examples/rdf/create/rdf/c
--- a/examples/eg-24-prov-o-html-examples/rdf/create/rdf/b	Thu May 03 13:45:16 2012 -0400
+++ /dev/null	Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000
@@ -1,221 +0,0 @@
-
-All --
-
-On Apr 2, 2012, at 04:12 PM, Timothy Lebo wrote:
-Please see ISSUE-336 for the information about reviewing
-PROV-O HTML and OWL.
-
-http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/336
-
-
-
-Apologies for the delay in my review.  
-
-Given the progress made on PROV-O, I've written the following 
-with reference to the *current* version, approved April 19 for 
-release as FPWD2 --
-
-<http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html>
-
-(Working Drafts being essentially heartbeats that demonstrate work 
-is active, and progress is being made, I saw no need to block this 
-release... but these comments remain important.)
-
-
-
-First, to the key questions --
-
-* Does the HTML file provide an adequate overview of the 
- OWL design elements?
-
-As things stand, yes.
-
-
-* Do the different organizations of PROV-O HTML and DM 
- complement each other, or is it distracting?
-
-Their differences are fine.
-
-
-* Would any additional comments (or attributes) help you 
- read the cross reference list in PROV-O HTML?
-
-1. Remove the redundant explanatory text.  It should not follow
-  *both* IRI and Example.  Given my choice, I'd say the better
-  positioning is between IRI and Example; not between Example
-  and Domain/Range/SuperProperty/SubProperty/etc.
-
-  Now seen in at least
-  - <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#Activity>
-  - <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#Agent>
-  - <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#Entity>
-
-  But not seen in
-  - <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#actedOnBehalfOf>
-
-2. I would appreciate a repeat of Figure 1 at the start of 
-  section 4.1.  I would also appreciate a complete
-  set of illustrations similar to Figure 2 at the start 
-  of section 4.2 (and I would find such a complete set of
-  illustrations more useful in Section 3.3 than the tables
-  with which it currently concludes; I would not necessarily
-  *replace* the tables, but the illustrations are *very*
-  helpful to correct understanding).
-
-
-* Are the comments within the OWL file adequate to familiarize 
- with the structure? If not, what kinds of comments would help?
-* Should the OWL file contain any links to documentation (e.g., 
- to the DM, to examples, etc.)?
-
-
-* Can the document be released as a next public working draft? 
- If no, what are the blocking issues?
-
-As noted earlier... Yes.
-
-
-And now... in depth.
-
-
-3. First thing, an overall style note for the example notation.  
-  I have found that adding extra space characters to pad columns, 
-  such that logical columns also *appear* as such, radically 
-  increases comprehension.  You can see a bit that (almost) does 
-  this in the last stanza of the "Qualified Derivation" example.  
-  (I'd add spaces between "a" and "prov:Derivation;" to make the 
-  first line match the ones beneath it.)
-
-
-
-
-
-
-re: 2. PROV-O at a glance
-<http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#prov-o-at-a-glance>
-
-4. prov:wasStartedByActivity and prov:wasStartedBy should swap 
-  positions, between "Starting Point classes and properties"
-  and "Expanded classes and properties".  The former is clearly
-  a refinement of the latter.
-
-  Further, I think there should be a new prov:wasStartedByAgent
-  (and *possibly* prov:wasStartedByEntity, if an Entity can 
-  act...), parallel to prov:wasStartedByActivity.
-
-  It seems to me that prov:wasStartedBy is the indefinite super-
-  property, used when you *don't know* what class started the 
-  current Activity, with subproperties of prov:wasStartedByAgent 
-  and prov:wasStartedByActivity (and *possibly* 
-  prov:wasStartedByEntity), which are used when you *do* know 
-  the class of the starting, er, entity (not prov:Entity, but 
-  general RDF entity).
-
-  Those changes will necessarily have reflections throughout 
-  the following and connected documents... 
-
-
-
-re: 3.1 Starting Point Terms
-<http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#description-starting-point-terms>
-
-5. The diagram (and explanatory text) lacks prov:wasStartedBy
-  (and new sub-property/ies prov:wasStartedByActivity and 
-  prov:wasStartedByAgent).
-
-
-
-6. I think it's important to clearly state that an RDF entity 
-  which is a prov:Agent or prov:Activity in one Provenance 
-  document, may be a prov:Entity in another; that an RDF 
-  entity which is a prov:Entity in one document may act as 
-  a prov:Agent or a prov:Activity in another -- which is all 
-  to say, that a prov:Agent or prov:Activity may have its 
-  own Provenance...
-
-
-
-7. This phrasing is problematic --
-
-  "Entities are related to each other using derivation, which is 
-  used to specify that the creation/existence of an entity was 
-  influenced in some way by the consumption of another entity."
-
-  "Consumption" implies to me some shrinkage or change of the 
-  "consumed" entity.  I think this is not necessary, and thus 
-  that this wording should change to something like --
-
-  "Entities are related to each other using derivation, which is 
-  used to specify that the creation/existence of an entity was 
-  influenced in some way by another entity, whether by its simple 
-  presence or existence (as with chemical catalysts), physical 
-  interaction and/or consumption (as with chemical reactants), 
-  or otherwise."
-
-
-
-
-
-re: 3.2 Expanded Terms
-<http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#description-expanded-terms>
-
-
-8. "Derek detects a typo. He doesnt' want to record"
-
-  I detect a typo.  "doesnt' want" should be "doesn't want"
-
-
-
-9. This wording is confusing to me --
-
-  "Thus, the location of the new revision has the same permalink, 
-  but a different url for its snapshot (ex:postContent1)."
-
-  The "permalink" abbreviation only replaces 2 words ("permanent 
-  link"), but here tries to replace a much larger phrase from the 
-  preceding paragraph ("permanent link where the content of the 
-  latest version is shown")
-
-  I think this would be better --
-
-  "Thus, the permalink to the latest version 
-  (ex:more-crime-happens-in-cities) remains the same in the new 
-  revision, but a different url is given for its snapshot 
-  (ex:postContent1)."
-
-  I suggest also tweaking all matching lines in the example 
-  block, from --
-
-     prov:atLocation ex:more-crime-happens-in-cities;   ##PERMALINK of the post
-
--- to --
-
-     prov:atLocation ex:more-crime-happens-in-cities;   ##PERMALINK to the (latest revision of the) post
-
-
-
-
-re: 3.4 Collections Terms
-<http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#description-collections>
-
-10. I think there's an error in this text --
-
-   "The example below specifies that the collection :c1 was 
-   obtained from the empty collection :c1 by inserting the 
-   key-value pairs ("k1", :e1) and ("k2", :e2)."
-
-   I think that the "empty collection" here is ":c" not ":c1".
-
-
-Though I began this cycle at the conclusion of last week's call,
-I've only gotten this far to this point (the morning of this
-week's call) ... but it seems better to put this partial review
-out now, than to delay it further.
-
-Speak with you soon,
-
-Ted
-
-
-
-
--- a/examples/eg-24-prov-o-html-examples/rdf/create/rdf/c	Thu May 03 13:45:16 2012 -0400
+++ /dev/null	Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000
@@ -1,221 +0,0 @@
- 
- All --
- 
- On Apr 2, 2012, at 04:12 PM, Timothy Lebo wrote:
- Please see ISSUE-336 for the information about reviewing
- PROV-O HTML and OWL.
- 
- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/336
- 
- 
- 
- Apologies for the delay in my review.  
- 
- Given the progress made on PROV-O, I've written the following 
- with reference to the *current* version, approved April 19 for 
- release as FPWD2 --
- 
- <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html>
- 
- (Working Drafts being essentially heartbeats that demonstrate work 
- is active, and progress is being made, I saw no need to block this 
- release... but these comments remain important.)
- 
- 
- 
- First, to the key questions --
- 
- * Does the HTML file provide an adequate overview of the 
-  OWL design elements?
- 
- As things stand, yes.
- 
- 
- * Do the different organizations of PROV-O HTML and DM 
-  complement each other, or is it distracting?
- 
- Their differences are fine.
- 
- 
- * Would any additional comments (or attributes) help you 
-  read the cross reference list in PROV-O HTML?
- 
- 1. Remove the redundant explanatory text.  It should not follow
-   *both* IRI and Example.  Given my choice, I'd say the better
-   positioning is between IRI and Example; not between Example
-   and Domain/Range/SuperProperty/SubProperty/etc.
- 
-   Now seen in at least
-   - <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#Activity>
-   - <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#Agent>
-   - <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#Entity>
- 
-   But not seen in
-   - <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#actedOnBehalfOf>
- 
- 2. I would appreciate a repeat of Figure 1 at the start of 
-   section 4.1.  I would also appreciate a complete
-   set of illustrations similar to Figure 2 at the start 
-   of section 4.2 (and I would find such a complete set of
-   illustrations more useful in Section 3.3 than the tables
-   with which it currently concludes; I would not necessarily
-   *replace* the tables, but the illustrations are *very*
-   helpful to correct understanding).
- 
- 
- * Are the comments within the OWL file adequate to familiarize 
-  with the structure? If not, what kinds of comments would help?
- * Should the OWL file contain any links to documentation (e.g., 
-  to the DM, to examples, etc.)?
- 
- 
- * Can the document be released as a next public working draft? 
-  If no, what are the blocking issues?
- 
- As noted earlier... Yes.
- 
- 
- And now... in depth.
- 
- 
- 3. First thing, an overall style note for the example notation.  
-   I have found that adding extra space characters to pad columns, 
-   such that logical columns also *appear* as such, radically 
-   increases comprehension.  You can see a bit that (almost) does 
-   this in the last stanza of the "Qualified Derivation" example.  
-   (I'd add spaces between "a" and "prov:Derivation;" to make the 
-   first line match the ones beneath it.)
- 
- 
- 
- 
- 
- 
- re: 2. PROV-O at a glance
- <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#prov-o-at-a-glance>
- 
- 4. prov:wasStartedByActivity and prov:wasStartedBy should swap 
-   positions, between "Starting Point classes and properties"
-   and "Expanded classes and properties".  The former is clearly
-   a refinement of the latter.
- 
-   Further, I think there should be a new prov:wasStartedByAgent
-   (and *possibly* prov:wasStartedByEntity, if an Entity can 
-   act...), parallel to prov:wasStartedByActivity.
- 
-   It seems to me that prov:wasStartedBy is the indefinite super-
-   property, used when you *don't know* what class started the 
-   current Activity, with subproperties of prov:wasStartedByAgent 
-   and prov:wasStartedByActivity (and *possibly* 
-   prov:wasStartedByEntity), which are used when you *do* know 
-   the class of the starting, er, entity (not prov:Entity, but 
-   general RDF entity).
- 
-   Those changes will necessarily have reflections throughout 
-   the following and connected documents... 
- 
- 
- 
- re: 3.1 Starting Point Terms
- <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#description-starting-point-terms>
- 
- 5. The diagram (and explanatory text) lacks prov:wasStartedBy
-   (and new sub-property/ies prov:wasStartedByActivity and 
-   prov:wasStartedByAgent).
- 
- 
- 
- 6. I think it's important to clearly state that an RDF entity 
-   which is a prov:Agent or prov:Activity in one Provenance 
-   document, may be a prov:Entity in another; that an RDF 
-   entity which is a prov:Entity in one document may act as 
-   a prov:Agent or a prov:Activity in another -- which is all 
-   to say, that a prov:Agent or prov:Activity may have its 
-   own Provenance...
- 
- 
- 
- 7. This phrasing is problematic --
- 
-   "Entities are related to each other using derivation, which is 
-   used to specify that the creation/existence of an entity was 
-   influenced in some way by the consumption of another entity."
- 
-   "Consumption" implies to me some shrinkage or change of the 
-   "consumed" entity.  I think this is not necessary, and thus 
-   that this wording should change to something like --
- 
-   "Entities are related to each other using derivation, which is 
-   used to specify that the creation/existence of an entity was 
-   influenced in some way by another entity, whether by its simple 
-   presence or existence (as with chemical catalysts), physical 
-   interaction and/or consumption (as with chemical reactants), 
-   or otherwise."
- 
- 
- 
- 
- 
- re: 3.2 Expanded Terms
- <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#description-expanded-terms>
- 
- 
- 8. "Derek detects a typo. He doesnt' want to record"
- 
-   I detect a typo.  "doesnt' want" should be "doesn't want"
- 
- 
- 
- 9. This wording is confusing to me --
- 
-   "Thus, the location of the new revision has the same permalink, 
-   but a different url for its snapshot (ex:postContent1)."
- 
-   The "permalink" abbreviation only replaces 2 words ("permanent 
-   link"), but here tries to replace a much larger phrase from the 
-   preceding paragraph ("permanent link where the content of the 
-   latest version is shown")
- 
-   I think this would be better --
- 
-   "Thus, the permalink to the latest version 
-   (ex:more-crime-happens-in-cities) remains the same in the new 
-   revision, but a different url is given for its snapshot 
-   (ex:postContent1)."
- 
-   I suggest also tweaking all matching lines in the example 
-   block, from --
- 
-      prov:atLocation ex:more-crime-happens-in-cities;   ##PERMALINK of the post
- 
- -- to --
- 
-      prov:atLocation ex:more-crime-happens-in-cities;   ##PERMALINK to the (latest revision of the) post
- 
- 
- 
- 
- re: 3.4 Collections Terms
- <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/fb23031cf708/ontology/spwd/2012-04-18-vote-for-public-release/prov-o.html#description-collections>
- 
- 10. I think there's an error in this text --
- 
-    "The example below specifies that the collection :c1 was 
-    obtained from the empty collection :c1 by inserting the 
-    key-value pairs ("k1", :e1) and ("k2", :e2)."
- 
-    I think that the "empty collection" here is ":c" not ":c1".
- 
- 
- Though I began this cycle at the conclusion of last week's call,
- I've only gotten this far to this point (the morning of this
- week's call) ... but it seems better to put this partial review
- out now, than to delay it further.
- 
- Speak with you soon,
- 
- Ted
- 
- 
- 
-